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john denver is in harwood tonight getting ready for -- no, john is in denver. >> rest in peace, john denver. >> great john, rocky mountain high. an adventurer flying around in one of those planes. >> 201,000 was the last -- >> adp was 201 and we got 90. >> we got adp on top of everything else, john. we had a horrible number last time. i don't really know, it really is different this time if you're able to tie the continuing bad jobs number to the prior president, then it really doesn't matter. it's like all bets are off compared to all those metrics we used to use where if it's above 7% or 8%, the incumbent has a problem. not if people believe it wasn't his fault. i'm not sure any of this really matters that much. >> well, but remember a couple things about that, joe. first of all, the unemployment rate's only one indicator, there are a lot of other things, the market, household -- mark zandy talks about households being in a lot better shape. that's one. the second is what we've seen in our polling is that people who are inclined to vote for obama are kind of reconciling their views
john denver is in harwood tonight getting ready for -- no, john is in denver. >> rest in peace, john denver. >> great john, rocky mountain high. an adventurer flying around in one of those planes. >> 201,000 was the last -- >> adp was 201 and we got 90. >> we got adp on top of everything else, john. we had a horrible number last time. i don't really know, it really is different this time if you're able to tie the continuing bad jobs number to the prior president,...
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anyway, what did you think, john? >> well, romney considered that path and he took that path, joe, and he tried to press his case last night. the challenge for him was to come out with the kind of aggression that could score for him while still being respectful for the president. and i think he met that challenge. he was on offense most of the time, put the president back on his heels on his record. and he challenged him directly. i thought the strongest moment that he had was when he directly challenged the president on his failure to cut the deficit over the last four years. and he cast that failure not just as a policy issue, but also as a moral issue. >> i think it's not just an economic issue. i think it's a moral issue. i think it's frankly not moral for my generation to keep spending massively more than we take in knowing those burdens will be passed on to the next generation. and they're going to be paying the interest and the principal all their lives and the amount of debt we're adding at a trillion a year i
anyway, what did you think, john? >> well, romney considered that path and he took that path, joe, and he tried to press his case last night. the challenge for him was to come out with the kind of aggression that could score for him while still being respectful for the president. and i think he met that challenge. he was on offense most of the time, put the president back on his heels on his record. and he challenged him directly. i thought the strongest moment that he had was when he...
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john harwood joins us from new york. not d.c. this morning. good morning, john. it appears to me, and maybe i'm wrong, but this election is now increasingly far from over if it was ever over at all before. i'm looking at a cnn report, also nate silver saying new polls raise chance of an electoral college tie. what do you know? >> i had no idea what nate's talking about. t it is possible that we could have an electoral tie. highly unlikely. so i don't think the election's over. b obama has the lead. we still have a month to go. the next two weeks with three presidential, one vice presidential debates, we have a chance for mitt romney to set a different impression with the american people than he's been able to do so far. who knows what president obama will do and what events are happening in the world. but i'm not sure other than some tightening from a little surge that obama had which i think is receding a little bit, i'm not sure what nate is talking about. >> john, you wrote a column that talks about the debates and the impact of the debates traditionally. and
john harwood joins us from new york. not d.c. this morning. good morning, john. it appears to me, and maybe i'm wrong, but this election is now increasingly far from over if it was ever over at all before. i'm looking at a cnn report, also nate silver saying new polls raise chance of an electoral college tie. what do you know? >> i had no idea what nate's talking about. t it is possible that we could have an electoral tie. highly unlikely. so i don't think the election's over. b obama has...
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joining us from washington, john harwood. is this like when you do to pass a bill to see what's in it, kind of like the same thing, isn't it? >> i don't know about passing the bill to see what's in it, but on andrew's point and your point -- >> you're going to agree with andrew? wait a second. let me stop the presses here. >> i haven't said anything, dude. >> okay, go ahead. let's hear. >> my point is, yes, you can get to 28%, but remember, that simpson-bowles raises money. it's not revenue neutral. that's the difference. simpson-bowles raised a lot of revenue. and becky is right, look, presidential campaigns especially the last month are not where campaigns decide to lay out the difficult details. remember this, ronald reagan ran for re-election and there were vague illusions to tax reform. did he layout a tax reform plan? he did not. they passed tax reform in 1986. so of course journalists will press for details because it is difficult to make plans up. we can't know precisely how the obama administration proposes to raise
joining us from washington, john harwood. is this like when you do to pass a bill to see what's in it, kind of like the same thing, isn't it? >> i don't know about passing the bill to see what's in it, but on andrew's point and your point -- >> you're going to agree with andrew? wait a second. let me stop the presses here. >> i haven't said anything, dude. >> okay, go ahead. let's hear. >> my point is, yes, you can get to 28%, but remember, that simpson-bowles...